I'm trying to learn a bit more about other web dev tools.

I'm used to using Joomla, and just finished giving Drupal a try. I found Drupal to be very complicated and hard to work with.

Grav was much more simple and straight forward. I used a rockettheme free theme, and started with that, then realized the theme I had for Joomla is also available for Grav.

Bought it, setup the RocketLauncher, it's the best way to learn Grav/Joomla CMS. Would be nice if Drupal did something like this other then the default install option. Every theme should have a full rendition of the site with fake things to show case how it all works, and allow the user to dive into the theme they want and see what they need to change to make it what they want.

Gave up on Drupal because of this and that it take way more clicks to do basic things that are done in 2-5 clicks on Grav/Joomla.

I will stick with Grav and/or Joomla.